During the pre-sale period, Andy and I went back to the shop to see if we could improve our taps even further and we did just that! We hope you like the changes and if you already pre-ordered your taps, don’t worry! Your taps will include the new modifications!

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bljew February 3, 2018 5:06 pm

I would like to purchase a set of these taps. They are currently sold out. Are your going to offer more? If so when? Can I pre-order?

Greg July 20, 2017 6:20 pm

has anyone else noticed that the 1/4 inch base is not 1/4 inch? I measured it at .223 in. It is unusable in a 1/4 inch driver.

    Marc Spagnuolo July 21, 2017 11:56 am

    What driver do you use Greg? I tested it in my 1/4″ drill attachments and it works fine.

    Greg July 21, 2017 1:06 pm

    Hi Marc, I use a quick change bit holder from fastcap called ‘taper Lock” (https://www.fastcap.com/estore/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=9939 )
    I use it in a drill not an impact driver. The thing about this item is that it tightens around the bit a certain amount, so it should work better on an undersized bit than a standard 1/4 inch holder. I think the problem is that mine measures .223 not .23 like yours, so i think it is just a little over the line in terms of wobble. Please keep in mind that I am not ‘complaining’, i will just chuck it in my drill instead of using the bit holder. I am just thinking for future production runs, if the factory would make the base 6.3 millimeters, it would be a bonus to some people. Thanks for following up with me.

    Marc Spagnuolo July 21, 2017 6:45 pm

    Thanks, Greg. We’ll definitely look into beefing things up in future runs. I obviously can’t measure all of the taps but I did measure at least two of each size that we currently have on hand and every one was dead on 0.236, slightly larger than the prototype I had in the shop.

Bobbie July 14, 2017 12:25 pm

What are some ideas for storing the taps? Custom ct kaizen foam? Festool mini systainer? Wood block with holes are shown in the pic? Custom made box? Any other ideas?

Brian July 14, 2017 5:56 am

So excited to have my taps. Received them yesterday, packaging looks great, love the sticker that comes along with it as a guide for pilot hole drilling size. I guess I’m just a little confused and wanted to reach out, as the bolts are very tight, are very hard to even tighten down with a but driver, I almost have to use a socket wrench. I see that done in the video on this page, but it says not to do so in the instructions that came with the taps. Is the fit supposed to be that tight? just wanted to check if others are having the same experience. Love them so far, they seem to cut threads really well, and very fast with the drill, just surprised that it takes so much force to drive a bolt into the tapped hole. Thanks so much for any information you can provide.

    Marc Spagnuolo July 21, 2017 11:38 am

    They are indeed supposed to be that tight. We made that decision in hopes of squeezing out as much strength as possible from the joint. And while we don’t want you to use a socket wrench, it might be necessary to get the thing going. The reason we don’t want people using a wrench is that once you bottom out or your parts engage, it’s all too easy to apply too much force and strip out. So feel free to use the wrench but go easy once your parts are together.

vasandy July 12, 2017 2:43 pm

Awesome awesome awesome. Got my taps… packaging is perfect, all perfectly aligned in their zip-lock even. Nice attention to detail there (thank you, Marc’s Mom, Nicely done!!!). Can’t wait to get some bolts in wood now. 🙂

garyk April 11, 2017 8:05 pm

Mark,
You continue to impress me with your strength of character. When I fist looked at the email, I thought: “Wait, I just ordered them and now he’s coming out with an improvement? What kind of “usual manufacturer marketing crap” is this! But I should have known better than to distrust you! Certainly, I can’t wait to use the taps, but I also couldn’t wait to compliment you on your professionalism and the deep and true respect you have for all of us.
Gary Katz

Gregory April 6, 2017 6:32 pm

I have threaded wood in many projects. I have used thin CA glue in the threads to reinforce the threads (especially soft woods) with good success. The smaller tap size should make the CA glue not necessary. I am looking forward using these taps in my next project.

Mark April 6, 2017 1:05 pm

Very excited to receive mine! I am curious if you verified your assumption that these will be stronger threads? I agree it seems to make sense for sure but as an Engineer, I have to often seen the “theory of unintended consequences” rear it’s ugly head when obvious design changes are made without testing. Hope you have verified your assumption.

    Marc Spagnuolo April 6, 2017 6:35 pm

    We did verify by testing.

ondrew April 5, 2017 9:06 pm

One of the projects I was considering making with these taps is an adjustable standing desk. Now with the tighter clearances I’m thinking this might make it a bit more difficult to use wood for my adjustment mechanism. I guess I’ll just have to wait and see. Thoughts? BTW can you give me an example of what I might use a 9/16’s tap for? It seems way too big for anything woodworking related in my view.

    Marc Spagnuolo April 5, 2017 9:33 pm

    I don’t really know anything about the mechanism you plan to employ but I can’t see any reason why the tap changes would affect your plans. As for the larger taps, just think big. Beds, larger outdoor projects. It’s probably going to be the least used tap in the set but we like providing the option.

Trever April 5, 2017 7:35 pm

Since the new design compresses some of the wood fibers, are there any differences in longevity over repeated use? For example, in a jig or high-use knock situation, is this change expected reduce the number of times a bolt can be threaded before it starts to spall? What about if the threads were reinforced with CA or epoxy?

That said, this whole thing is dripping with awesome.

    Marc Spagnuolo April 6, 2017 7:57 pm

    We expect this change to increase longevity and durability simply by leaving more wood intact and reducing movement in the bolt itself. It’s generally believed that using ca glue or epoxy to reinforce the threads will result in greater durability. Perhaps this change helps prevent that step from being necessary. Or perhaps adding something like CA glue will make the threads even stronger still. Hard to say at this stage.

Mike April 5, 2017 4:08 pm

Love the fact that you can not just be satisfied with what you had. Keep up the good work. Is it June yet?

patrick April 5, 2017 2:37 pm

Thanks for the update, and the extra effort you put in to improve the taps before they are even released.

Jesse April 5, 2017 2:11 pm

Will we be able to sharpen the taps as they dull over time? If so, will you have instructions for the best way to do it?

    Marc Spagnuolo April 6, 2017 7:54 pm

    I don’t think this is the kind of bit you can self-sharpen, at least not without mangling the threads.

Philip April 5, 2017 1:41 pm

Hi Marc, great improvement for my imperial set, any plans to do the same for the metric?
Thanks,
Phil

    Marc Spagnuolo April 5, 2017 2:02 pm

    Metric is not excluded from this design update.

    Philip April 7, 2017 12:37 am

    Exceptional news, kudos for taking the time to improve the design, rock on June! Thanks

Bill April 5, 2017 1:28 pm

Nice upgrade, already have a couple of projects in mind!! Bill

Randy April 5, 2017 12:59 pm

Looks great! Awesome job guys, can’t wait to use them.

Charles April 5, 2017 12:52 pm

So not only am I excited about the new design in the Goldilocks zone, but I can’t wait for the instructional video on how to make the case!!!

Bobbie April 5, 2017 12:21 pm

Nice job with the improvement. Question – will there be a case of some sort?

Regards,
Bobbie

    Marc Spagnuolo April 5, 2017 12:29 pm

    Each tap will come in its own case. But there is no case for the entire set at this time.

pegleg April 5, 2017 12:12 pm

Is there more of a possibility of developing cracks/splits in the wood with the update? I’m looking forward to playing with the taps. Thanks, Marc!

    Marc Spagnuolo April 5, 2017 12:29 pm

    Nope. It’s tight by thousandths so you’re only looking at some slight compression. Splitting shouldn’t be an issue.

    rcauston April 5, 2017 8:35 pm

    Uhm, did I miss something? When I looked at the taps when they were announced it was clearly stated that its imperial only, which makes them totally unuseable for us Europeans.

    Now you’re suddenly talking about a metric set in this update.

    Did I miss a presale of the metric set?

    Marc Spagnuolo April 5, 2017 8:42 pm

    I guess you did miss something. 🙂 We made the metric sets available about halfway through the pre-sale period.

John April 5, 2017 12:10 pm

Looks awesome. Looking forward to trying mine out. Any concerns / thoughts about wood movement with this tighter dimension?

    anklein2303 April 5, 2017 12:22 pm

    Shouldn’t be a concern, even if you tap threads with wet wood and let it dry and shrink the movement across the diameter of the hole will be really small, you’ll have a tiny bit of extra compression of wood fibers around the bolt, but doubt it would even be noticeable. And if you tap threads in dry wood and it expands a bit in a different season then I think our slightly smaller taps will work in your favor, and keep the fit snug even as the wood expands a tiny bit across the hole.

Vince April 5, 2017 12:09 pm

Is there an estimated delivery date for preordered taps.
Vince

    Marc Spagnuolo April 5, 2017 12:30 pm

    June.

Kent April 5, 2017 11:57 am

Are you planning to etch recommended dril bit size on each tap shank?

    Marc Spagnuolo April 5, 2017 11:58 am

    No, because you might want to use a different bit in different woods. We’ll have all the info in chart form on the website.

    Dietrich April 24, 2017 8:22 am

    Hi Marc, would you mind pointing me to that chart? Tried googling it but to no avail.

    Marc Spagnuolo April 24, 2017 8:51 am

    We haven’t made it yet. 🙂

Matt April 5, 2017 11:43 am

Awesome, thank you for going that extra mile and making them even better! Can’t wait to get my set!

Andrew April 5, 2017 11:29 am

Can’t wait to get my pre-ordered set! I did notice that your testing was only for good ole AMERICAN yeah suck it metric!

Tim April 5, 2017 11:25 am

That is inspired! I can’t wait to get them. Thanks guys.